Trueman ([info]rebelcoyote) wrote,
@ 2004-05-03 19:44:00
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The Ramblings of an Old Vet
With the way things have been going with the war in Iraq, more people than ever have become interested in hearing a “soldiers perspective.” Yet I find myself answering the most complicated questions with the most dilute answers. It’s hard to describe the experience of being an occupying soldier in a foreign city. One separated from your home by an ocean, a culture and thousands of years of history; it’s even harder to explain the feelings and reactions of the Iraqi people. Their’s is a complicated society as culturally and ethnically diverse as almost any other; Of course, coming from a nation with such a unique extreme of national diversity, it’s difficult for many to understand this. To generalize the feelings of the Iraqi people by saying the Iraqi people are ready for this and the Iraqi people are tired of that is to boil down an issue of the utmost complexity to a level which can’t possible do justice to the severity of it’s many dilemmas. Simplified questions get simplified answers and the path we tread there is anything but simple.

Iraq is much like the US in that it’s impossible to get all the people to agree on anything. There’s the obvious gap between the Shiites and the Sunni’s a generational gap between those who remember the old Iraq (pre-Saddam) and those who don’t, and a rapidly widening gap between the religious and the secular. The already strong western influence on the secular culture is becoming more prominent as more and more people gain access to uncensored internet and sattelite TV but the sway of the Faith increases as well as people turn to the mosques for support during this difficult time. You’ve got business owners who’ll support anything as long as it’s making them money, you have farmers who don’t care who’s running the country as long as their irrigation pumps have water and they’re getting the supplemental rations they’ve relied on for the last 12 years. You have average citizens who want national strength and independence but are far more worried about the safety of their family and their ability to provide for them.

I don’t even know where I’m going with this anymore. I used to worry that the people back home didn’t have an accurate understanding of the situation in Iraq. We really did have a trust and a peace established with the people in most of the country. The attacks that were happening were coming from a determined minority, a small group. But now I feel like thanks to a series of mistakes, we’ve seriously damaged that trust. Insurgents will always be a minority but if you piss off enough of the indifferent majority you’ll have an angry plurality; if we don’t have a working relationship with the people on the streets the insurgents will find it that much easier to fight us.




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[info]sabbitha
2004-05-03 05:57 pm UTC (link)
there you go.
and we were just talking about how iraqi people are doing on the ground about 10 minutes ago.

and you have now answered it.

thank you.


i've been reading your journal for a while now, and i jsut wanted to say thank you.
thank you for sharing your experiences
thank you for sharing your views
thank you for being so honest
and thank you for sharing your humanity in the face of all your expeirneces.


it touches people right around the world.

it gives us a individual, human perspective of the war in iraq.

and in this world of sanitised media coverage, that's hell important


thank you more than i can possibly put into words, for selflessly sharing your thoughts.

much respect
sab

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[info]cos
2004-05-03 06:08 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for posting this. I found it useful, even though I read a lot about Iraq, from a very wide variety of sources. It also reminds me of the time a woman I met in Finland told me about their prejudices about "Americans" and asked me if America is really like what they think it is, and I tried to convey to her the vastness and diversity of this country.

I hope you find time and inspiration to focus on bits and pieces of the Iraqi whole, as you know it, and write about them.

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[info]roninspoon
2004-05-03 07:50 pm UTC (link)
I get asked this sort of thing a lot too, and I always have to think about how I reply because I really don't have any more of an idea of what's going on than those that are asking me. My experiences with the region and the politics are more than a decade old now, they were formed during a previous administration and a previous war. I try to tell them that we don't know what's going on, that the media coverage is likely not very fair and that even if you consume information from a diverse range of sources, you'll only receive stories that interest reporters, not stories that may interest you. I try to remind them that the only ones who really know what's going on, are either too scared or too busy to talk about it, and even if they did, they have far too much emotional investment to speak without bias.

I tell them that I suspect there is a much different attitude and feeling in places that aren't major cities. I imagine many journalists don't like to leave their compounds and stray from the metropolitan areas to find out what's going on in the more median sized Iraqi communities. I then attempt to temper what I tell them by reminding them, that much as I may dislike it, I'm a civilian now too. I don't know any more about what's happening than they do. They want an opinion, and I tell them, “This is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.”

But then they ask me again, “But what's your perspective as a soldier?”

I'm not really sure what they want when they ask that. They may want to here a war story, everyone loves those. They may just want reassurance thouhg, for someone to tell them that everything's gonna be swell. Problem is, that ain't my opinion.

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People are people
[info]wolfmaen
2004-05-03 09:15 pm UTC (link)
Anyone seen Three Kings?
"What is the most important thing in life?...Necessity. People do what is most necessary to them at any given moment."

It's easy to think of Iraqis like they aren't human, when they're thousands of miles away. If Americans took the time to realize how things actually are, we'd realize that they're just people, like us. While they may have things in common amongst themselves, that rarely influences how they make their decisions (given, Iraq is quite different from America, but still). Everyone is scurrying about trying to eke out an existence for themselves and those that matter to them. We do the same thing, although our priviliges, freedoms, and high-minded priciples obscure the fact sometimes. As with us, the Iraqis rarely constitute a collective whole, and this fucks with our neatly justified perspectives of the universe. It breaks down the idea of "THEM." We need these conceptions to function and to make decisions, and a realization like this makes a sloppy, grey moral mess out of nicely ordered black and white. When you look at the war like that, neither the Left's hateful gloom and doom nor the Right's holy crusade to help fits in. Trying to manage a situation like the one we're in and please everyone is like trying to manage mice. Someone will always get lost, and not everyone will be happy with the result.

Sigh. I understand at least partially your frustrations and confusions, Trueman.

Oh, how I hate election years.

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[info]insomnia
2004-05-03 10:28 pm UTC (link)
Awhile back, I saw a documentary taken in the weeks following the fall of Baghdad. US soldiers casually walking around through the streets, giving candy to Iraqi children, lifting them up on their tank and showing them the insides.

The idea seemed so ludicrous nowadays, and the fact that it was so ludicrous was sad indeed.

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[info]suilven
2004-05-05 02:11 am UTC (link)
I too have been reading your blogg for some time now. I never read it without being moved at the simplicity of your writing and thoughts. Simplicity has great honesty and beauty. Thank-you for taking the time to write and to share them with us.

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